And yet, the polls are, for the third election in a row, split rather evenly. Single digit differences do not a mandate make. Frightening.

Can't we just split of into the United Blue Staters of America?

You might also want to check out Cecily's latest post at Uppercase woman.

http://zia.blogs.com/wastedbirthcontrol/

I honestly don't think this air quote thing is as big a deal as people think. I work in the healthcare industry and no one and no legislation is going to put the mother's care second to the baby's. Not going to happen.

I'm part of the ol' 8% --the undecided vote. And I have a uterus. I don't like John McCain, but I do tire of hearing how "scared" everyone is of him, as though he's some complete radical who can single-handedly overturn legislation overnight. But I expect you'll get a lot of the predictable "he's scary" comments.

Thanks for sharing these, Heather. I was so mad I couldn't see straight during that part of the debate. I do not consider myself pro-choice or pro-life. I believe in a person's right to die with dignity, and I believe in a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy if her health or life is in danger. I don't agree with abortion on demand, but as a woman who lost my child due to complications in a stillbirth and nearly died myself due to the complications, I just wanted to reach through the tv and strangle that bastard!! I don't need a politician to tell me what I can and can't do with my own body should I, God forbid, ever go through that horrific experience again. Which is just one more reason THIS Midwestern Republican is voting for Obama this year!

“the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby.”

umm...correct me if i am wrong, but this is the party that feels welfare should not exist, but some how the compassion of civil society will meet her needs?

maybe he should place all of the uninsured babies on his personal insurance to make sure they are cared for, think he will go for that...

I couldn't agree more. In addition to the raging abortion issue, there is the frightening reality that by voting for McCain, Sarah Palin could someday be president. Ask yourself, is that really what we want for the US?

How very "courageous" of you to dive into politics at the risk of alienating about 39% of your readership. You saved me from tuning in on other facets of the liberal media.
I think you are a uniquely talented and creative writer--but I'd rather not hear about your politics.

The notion that women and doctors would game the, 'if the mother's life is in danger' clause to justify an abortion even when the mother life isn't in danger, is a disgusting insult no matter which side of the abortion issue you are on. Safeguards can certainly be included to reduce abuse. Safeguards MUST be included for the mother's health/life regardless.

There is much cruelty afoot.

I love your politics, and the fact that you have featured two of my favorite blogs too. To those who immediately want to dismiss this as just another liberal thing, read the posts. They matter, and I can say that as someone who is not a fan of abortion, but who very much liked living through a life threatening pregnancy.

Sorry to go against the majority here but McCain's feelings about abortion are one of the main reasons I am voting for him. Do I think he is going to win? No, I don't - which makes me very nervous for the future of our country.

I agree about splitting the U.S. into two countries, too bad we're so economically interdependent. I love Dooce, but couldn't disagree more on her politics.

As a pro-life woman, who has been unable to get pregnant for years now, the complete and utter disrespect for the uniqueness and preciousness of human life continues to astonish me. How a baby being "unwanted" makes it any less of a life, I will never understand.

This is not an issue I go to the polls for. And the reason for abortion being a non issue for me is because abortions laws vary form state to state. I live in a state where you have to have parental consent to have an abortion however the next state over (I live in the city on the border of both these states) does not enforce the same consent law. 18 state already have legislation that bans partial birth abortions. Also 18 states have a waiting period however only 11 states enforce it.
So to me Abortion isn't something a presidental canidate can affect. HOWEVER-it is something that my state law makers can influence. And that is why it is just as important to vote in the state elections and well as the federal.

Please read the posts I linked to before you comment. Otherwise you look dumb.

I was screaming at the TV when he made these comments. This is the man who voted against insurance companies covering birth control, against free rape kits for women who've been sexually assaulted, and voted against SCHIP. He's obviously a man who really cares about women and children.

the idea of roe v. wade being overturned is impossible for me to contemplate. however, i have increasing faith in the american people that the right decision will be made on nov 4th.

As someone who has worked in the medical industry for some time now and seeing the things I have seen, I believe in both the miracle of birth and the necessity of abortion.

I think sometimes people who are pro-life automatically assume pro-choice is a pseudonym for "KILL ALL BABIES" instead of meaning the right to make a choice. I'm pro-choice for the right to choose whether or not to have a baby, whether or not I exercise my right to vote, whether or not to have one more twinkie.

All I want as a human being is the right to choose what I do to and what happens to my body. I don't think it is right to let someone else choose that for me. I am no man's property. I belong to myself.

Comments like Sara's prompt me to say: if you think the president's views on your hot button issues don't matter, please consider how much the Supreme Court has changed in the last 8 years. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito were nominated by GW Bush, and significantly altered the tenor of the Court. If Justice Stevens (88 years old) retires, SCOTUS will be 4-3 conservative-liberal, with Justice Kennedy as the lone indie.
The choice we make this election will likely have long-lasting repercussions on issues like abortion, gay marriage, gun control, and habeas corpus for prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. If any of those happen to be important to you, please research the candidates and VOTE!

My question is: When did being "Pro-Choice" turn into being "Pro-Abortion"?

I was just wondering, after reading your post yesterday, would you vote for McCain had you had the same mindset and values as you did in college?

What really drove me crazy about that was just mere minutes before making the airquoted comments, he'd railed about being a federalist in the context of healthcare. A federalist, who believes that the government shouldn't interfere with Americans' choice regarding their healthcare, it should be a free market not regulated by the government. If the government stepped in, they'd lose their choice! About healthcare! My husband and I were screaming at Obama on the TV screen during the later abortion segment of the debate: TELL HIM HE SHOULD BE A FEDERALIST ABOUT ABORTION THEN TOO! ISN'T THAT CHOICE A PART OF MY OWN PERSONAL DECISION ABOUT "HEALTHCARE"? Augh.

I won't vote for John McCain largely because of his views on abortion. However, he does not sicken me in any way. I disagree with him, but he has led a great life and made difficult decisions many times in his life. He is a man, unlike the vast majority of Pro-life men, who has faced decisions and situations worse than an unwanted pregnancy.

It's worth noting that Obama said roughly the following in the debate:

"I fully support making late-term abortions illegal except to save the life or the health of the mother."

What did he mean by late-term? Hard to say, completely ambiguous. Did he vote against the bill that would have made so-called partial birth abortions, done almost exclusively to save the life of the mother, illegal, even when the health of the mother was endangered? NO. He voted present.

Obama is no saint wrt abortion rights either. He is clearly the better choice for those of us who value abortion rights, but he is not passionate about the issue.

Choice is just that. It's a woman's choice to have a child or not, in consultation with her spouse, her doctor and her clergy. That's what Roe v. Wade is about. Just because someone is pro-choice that doesn't mean that I want everyone to have an abortion. I would like it to be safe, legal and rare. I don't understand the problem most anti-abortion people have with it. If you're against abortion then don't have one. But don't infring upon my right to choose.

The scary fact is that if McCain is the next president, then when he appoints one or two new Supreme court justices, then Roe v. Wade will likely be overturned. States would have the option to make abortion illegal again. Resulting in many women choosing illegal abortions and possibly death as a result of them... just like in the bad old days prior to Roe v. Wade.

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I was so offended by McCain's choice of words - calling it the "pro-abortion" movement. As Barack Obama pointed out, no one is pro-abortion. Why can't we agree that both sides want to reduce the number of abortions? The pro-CHOICE movement wants to keep abortion safe and legal while also investing in prevention such as sex education, family planning, birth control resources and counseling.

When the pro-life movement actually puts into place plans to help the mother after giving birth - with childcare, education resources, job training, etc - then I might change my tune. But the pro-lifers I have had the pleasure of talking to are only concerned with the birth of the child and don't expect to put any resources towards these babies or their mothers once they are born.

And don't even get me started on McCain's laugh and roll of the eyes when talking about the mother's "health" - his quotes, not mine. How any woman can vote for this man is beyond me.

What I've always hated about this issue were the terms used for your stance - you're either pro-life (can you hear the choirs of angels singing??) or pro-choice (hmmm, I think I’ll flip a coin to see if I’ll get an abortion today…). It’s not like pro-choicer are out there trying to persuade pregnant women to get an abortion (“Oh come on Suzy, everybody’s doing it”), and yet, what, the government thinks that women aren’t smart enough to make this life-changing decision on our own – so they better do it for us? I’m not pro-life, but I’m not pro-death either. I’m pro-making-the-best-decision-for-my-situation.

Sigh! I will be glad when this election is over so you will go back to being funny.

To JO:

Late-term is generally taken to mean third trimester.

And Obama did not vote for that bill because it did NOT include a provision for the life or health of the mother. It just flat-out banned partial-birth abortions without any exceptions for the mother. That's why he (and many others - it did not pass) didn't feel comfortable voting for it.

#39 - There is nothing innocent about "forgetting" to use a condom and winding up pregnant. Rape is another thing. For crying out loud people...live with your choices, mistake or not.

One more thing. Beyond the words that McCain uses to pander to his base, I hated the air quotes.

I hated the air quotes combined with the sound of him sucking his teeth. I cannot stand to listen to that for the next four years.

GO KNOCK ON DOORS. VOLUNTEER TO DRIVE YOUR NEIGHBOR TO THE POLLS. GO VOTE!!!

Yes, Stacy, because being funny is so much more important than my civil rights.

He is a cluless ass. I do not understand how the masses thinks he is in touch with today's needs. Abortion is not the governments business. Plain and simple.

I am, frankly, baffled by much of the rhetoric coming from the conservative side regarding women's health and reproductive choices -- namely abortion, obviously. It seems as though they think women are just RUNNING OUT TO HAVE ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL AND CRAZY SEX ALL THE DAMN TIME SO THEY CAN GET THEIR ABORTIONS! ABORTIONS! MY GOD WE JUST LOVE GETTING ABORTIONS!

I don't know a single woman who has had an abortion without a second thought. Even if she hasn't had to struggle with guilt (like many of us raised in Christian or other conservative households do), she has had to struggle with how she is perceived by friends and family or even her lover.

The other day, I saw a conservative blog ranting about how us liberals want women to go around having wild, unprotected sex just so we will get knocked up and have abortions, thereby (and I shit you not, they actually said this) "Fund the multi-billion dollar per year abortion mill industry."

My mom still refuses to vote for Obama because, "he is okay with killing babies."

Heather--

I love your writing. I repeat-LOVE YOUR WRITING. I never miss a day of reading each and every post. I must say though, please get over the fact that every single person in this country (including your readers) have varying opinions on every issue. It's becoming very clear that your "open-mind" is narrowing more and more every day by consistently closing the door on any opinion that isn't yours. And, hey, I'm even voting for Obama. We're on the same side and I'm still getting tired of your rants.

Thank you for those links. They were so affecting. I immediately posted the links on my facebook, knowing it would piss off my conservative friends and family members, because I have the tiny hope that one of these entries will make one of them think in a broader way about this subject. (I'm hoping for my 18 yr old niece, who I love so much in spite of her extreme conservative views and troublingly uncomplicated sense of rightousness, and who is like the Lutheran twin of the teenager you used to be.) It's worth pissing people off if you can help even one person expand his or her perspective.

As I'm sure you know.

HOW DARE YOU WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU CARE ABOUT ON YOUR VERY OWN BLOG!

I can't even talk about politics with my family, I just avoid saying anything whenever Daniel starts to talk about Obama.

When I read Alexa's entry I teared up. I watched the debate and McCain's response caught me as inappropriate generally for various reasons. There are a lot of things I don't understand about extremely religious people. For example I can't understand why Bush would oppose abortion on moral grounds but be fine with lying to the American people in an attempt to start a war in Iraq that would kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqs and thousands of Americans. The same religion that allowed slavery to exist in this country as a biblical right. This things are beyond my understanding. But as I heard McCain speak it occured to me that the value of an unborn life is given more weight by them than a living breathing person. As a father I now understand that I and my wife would both give our lives willingly for our children. And as Alexa said the choice of aborting the living being wiggling inside of you is not one made on a whim. Decisions on when these procedures should or should not apply should be left in the hands of doctors and parents not in the hands of people driven blind by religion. A religion that can be twisted to make slavery and war appropriate. A religion that can change to fit the holder's needs is not an objective body that deserves to be foisted upon the masses.

Is there really a separation between religion and the state in this country? Between the gay marriage issues, abortion rights issues and stem-cell research issues.....seems like there is actually very little that is not governed by religion here.

I've read both posts, and largely agree. However, I'm far, far more scared of the effect on women's health issues from bully obstetrician-gynecologists and their propaganda machines waging war on normal physiological birth. Talk about removing choice, and using fear as a weapon...
Please read Pushed by Jennifer Block to learn more about how much of the current hospital, physician, and insurance systems are assaulting women everyday.

Voters need to understand that YES the next president WILL have the power to overturn Roe v Wade and many other important legislation. Educate yourself about how the Supereme Court works people. Justice Stevens is not well and it is a very real possibility that the next President will be appointing his replacement. They are so close to a majority already, it will only take one more vote to change your life (and your rights) for a very long time. And I am not just talking about Roe v Wade either. The Supreme Court has very real power. Learn it, understand it, and VOTE.

1. It's probably a good thing he's running for President, and not Supreme Court Justice then, right? (Hint: The President can't overturn Roe v Wade.)

2. Even if enough liberal Justices died/retired and were replaced with conservative judges (With a Democrat-majority congress to fight the nominations? Impossible.) who wanted to overturn Roe v Wade, that doesn't mean abortion becomes illegal. It just means that it stops being federally mandated. The decision on abortion would go back to the individual states.

So relax. Jeez. Hysteria isn't going to help anyone.

I would like to see every pro-life person adopt an unwanted child, before they can decide they are pro-life. If that happened, maybe there would be no need for abortion.
Also, for those who say if you work hard, you can afford healthcare, I disagree. There are many people who have to take low paying jobs with no benefits, for their own personal reasons. And, we all rely on these jobs to get done. I always think, 'but for the grace of God' that could be me. To quote 'Barnyard'- A strong man helps himself, a stronger man helps others.

I know you will get flack for this post, as you always do with anything of the political. But speaking for those of us who do not have a popular blog for a platform, THANK YOU!

I have both a uterus and a brain. And I'm still voting for McCain/Palin.

I read both of these great ladies blogs and appreciate them so much for being able to say what so many of us want to say but can't. And thank you Heather for sending the masses to their sites so that maybe more people can understand just how dangerous it would be for John McCain to be in office.

The spirit in me tells me that abortion is wrong...for me. My spirit also tells me that absolutely
NO ONE
EVER
has the right to tell me what to do with my body, her body or his body.

This is not the only campaign issue and it actually should not be a campaign issue at all but I am going to fight until I have no fight left for my fellow Americans. This government has no right to tell me or anyone else what to do with their bodies.

I'm pro-life. So are all democrats.

I am pro- programs that provide life-sustaining services, including food, shelter, and healthcare to women, families and children.

I am pro- bringing life into the world in a responsible manner. So I support sexuality education and healthcare programs that empower women and their partners to decide when to become parents by providing them with knowledge and access to family planning resources, including accurate and practical information regarding abstinence, natural family planning, barrier methods, and hormonal contraception.

I am pro-mothers. I believe all women who become pregnant should have a legitimate choice - to decide whether they wish to parent a child, become a birthmother, or terminate the pregnancy. I believe that the government has a role in ensuring that all of these choices are real possibilities, and not theoretical abstractions. ("Deciding to parent" is great, but if the government is so committed to the sanctity of the life inside my hypothetical womb, I want you to promise my future child that I will have the resources to be a good parent.)

Nobody is pro-abortion.
But my vote goes to the politician who recognizes that, even when all of the above programs are in place (... all of them, surprisingly, the kinds of programs that conservatives generally oppose), there will still be a need for abortions. And when that need arises, the decision of whether and how and when to terminate the pregnancy is a medical one. My vote goes to the politician who recognizes that he is not my doctor, and he is not my conscience, and he is not God - he cannot possibly imagine all of the possible scenarios that will dictate what the "right" choice would be in any given situation. So he will trust that I - and all women - are capable of making the best decisions for ourselves and our children.

"It's becoming very clear that your "open-mind" is narrowing more and more every day by consistently closing the door on any opinion that isn't yours. "

I agree. When I read your "mortified" post the other day it occurred to me that you are an all-or-nothing gal. You really go deep into your beliefs and then close your mind to the other options. Which is fine, this is your blog, this is your life, but it is kind of ironic as it is the opposite of what you preach so proudly.

I have a hard time reading these comments about the government ignoring the needs of its citizens when it comes to health care issues. For single mothers and families who cant afford health insurance there are several programs available where families dont have to pay a dime, such as the CHIP program.

I just have a hard time wanting to rely on the government for health care. They have done a horrible job at running Social Security, and if you want to see how government really runs health care talk to a Vet who has had the wonderful pleasure of using the VA for care services and see how smoothly their experiance went.

I for one, am more scared of becoming a socialist society and destroying the capitalist fire that makes this country great. What happened to Americans working hard and taking care of themselves, providing opportunity for their businesses to grow. Now days we are to quick to turn to the government for handouts when things get tough. I understand that there will always be people in need and there are programs availble to take care of them.

Obama is all about socializing health care, as well as getting rid of those evil companies who have actually made a profit. Who do you think will pay the taxes that he intends to raise on the corperate world. We will cause they will raise prices on their products to cover the costs of the extra taxes they have to pay. I got a C+ in Economics in college and I can understand that policy.

In the fragile state that our Economy is in do we really need more taxes put on struggling companies that are barely making ends meet. I have had my own business, and know how it is to do $300,000 a year in business and barely make it cause of all the costs that are involved in running your own business. And believe me you pay a lot of taxes on the money your business makes, at the end of the month there isn't very much left over for your own pay check. It is not that I make $300,000 a year but my business does that much in sales a year. If the taxes were to increase for my type of business it would cripple my business and probably make it fail, along with several other businesses in this country. That is why Obama scares the shit out of me!

Thank you, Heather, for continuing to bring up issues that are important. I LOVE your blog, and the mix of light and serious topics.

For the people who only want you to be fluffy and light, I suggest they stop reading and go back their bonbons and Days of Our Lives...

The rest of us CARE about what's going on in this country and aren't afraid to hear and talk about it.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

When J-Mc made those air quotes when he was talking about the health of the mother I wanted to scream. HOW is it that pro-life ends when a baby is born? What about the mother's life? Isn't that still valuable?

And I am so offended that he chooses to call the pro-choice movement the "pro-abortion" movement. I am 100% pro-choice and 100% anti-abortion--for me. I would never judge you for making a different choice and I would certainly never say that ANYONE is pro-abortion. I know that it is a very hard decision and it is never taken lightly.

Shame on him for his treatment of women, especially given that he has daughters.

You're right. I was dumb.

Those links are powerful. Very well written and definitely make the point. Thank you for sharing.

Anon@83: I believe Obama himself noted that nobody is really pro-abortion per se--as abortion is a not-fun, invasive medical procedure. But what pro-choicers are in favour of is access to birth control, unbiased information, and medical options for women that will hopefully prevent the need for abortion in most cases. But every woman should retain the right to make a decision about her body--being pregnant can be a huge bodily change, at best, and a life-threatening situation, at worst--and she should be able to decide for herself. Every time I hear people refer to abortion as a convenience, it makes me see red. There is nothing "convenient" about a costly surgery (although thanks to PP, semi-affordable compared to other surgeries) which you will spend a week or two recovering from. Nobody waves a magic wand and *poof* you aren't pregnant anymore. It's a medical choice.

Also, I'd like to note that while McCain and Palin talk about equal pay for women, McCain couldn't be bothered to vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, but said he would have opposed it anyway, since he said it opened up the possibility for frivolous lawsuits. Basically when McCain talks women's rights, he's insincere. He's used the word "frivolous" to refer to both abortion and equal pay--I can't take him seriously as a candidate that would support me.

I can't wait for November 5th.

Sigh.

When anyone reduces an election to a single issue--especially one that involves the right to fill an unborn child--it is sad.

Your original example from Alexa of Flotsam is a perfect example. She puts words in Sen. McCain's mouth that he DID NOT SAY. But that's so typical of the liberal left. He did NOT say having an abortion is the easy way out (that's Alexa's own guilt shining through). If she wants to question what is compassionate, she should ask Obama why he voted not to have hospitals provide care for babies that survived botched abortions. Hmmm. Apparently that is the modicum of compassion the majority of posters here subscribe to.

All of which is why it is harder and harder to justify any meaningful friendships with anyone who is a bleeding heart Liberal. Many of whom value the life of a convicted murder or child molester more than they do that of an unborn child.

Stances such as this totally ignore the fact that the vast majority of Americans see the abortion issue in shades of gray...not black or white. Very few think no abortions should ever be allowed in any circustances. And very few think abortions should be allowed at any time for any reason even into the third trimester. Well, except for a few here who reduce everything to a up/down litmus test on abortion. Get a life.

Alexa and Julie are very eloquent. I agree with them wholeheartedly. I am also VERY glad that I have already voted by absentee ballot and you can bet it wasn't for McCain and that backwards woman Palin. I'm curious how many others out there have already voted by absentee.

I love everyone saying that women should just make sure to use contraceptives and they won't get pregnant, so abortion shouldn't be an issue. Guess what? I was an unplanned child, courtesy of condom failure. My brother was a failure of both condoms AND birth control pills. Sometimes you find yourself in that tiny percentage, despite being careful, and having the option to terminate should always be there.

i think the term "anti-choice" should be used with more regularity. it is much more accurately descriptive of the associated sentiments than the outdated "pro-life."

Heather, I am so grateful that you are writing about politics, although I know you can't influence everyone, you can present the facts. McCain and Palin scare me, they really do. She is a complete narcissist. To be one heartbeat away from the presidency after being a mayor of a small town and governor of Alaska is beyond frightening. It's true that Obama hasn't been tested, but he is extremely brilliant, his leadership skills are superb and he has the best minds in the country supporting him. And he inspires young people - which is great.

McCain's tax plans will send this country further into the toilet. How could anyone in their right mind who is not a member of the top five percent in this country even consider voting for them?

And abortion? That was decided forty years ago. Leave it alone. Women - do we really want the government telling us what we can and cannot do when it comes to bringing a life into this world. I have a twenty year-old daughter and raising her has been the toughest job I've ever done

As a former writer of "Guiding Light" - which I guess you used to watch - I am thrilled that we women have the chance to really affect the outcome of this election and throw the Republicans out of the White House and Congress. Thanks for taking a leadership role in the discussion.

Abortion really isn't a religious issue, it is a legal issue...taking a life is taking a life...murder isn't a religious issue...I am a pretty liberal feminist...but this issue doesn't belong in that context

I agree that abortion is a sticky subject and that in reality, it should be someone's choice to live with what can reasonably construed as murder.

However, none of this makes me reconsider voting for McCain. Abortion is always a "non-issue" that is construed to be so very important. Honestly, it's the last thing on my mind this election.

I am a yellow dog democrat living in Tx, xCatholic, xMormon, Chritian and married - I am not a fan of bush or what has happened in the last 8 yrs. I am also a women who can not get/stay pregnant. I have tried to adopt special needs chidren (siblings) through tx child protective services and terminated the adoption (a whole other topic of discussion). The issue of abortion is much bigger then abortion. If the government can control what I as a women does w/my body - its a short jump for the govt controlling all our bodies - including our children. Keep in mind how we vote today effects us years from now and sets precendences that can be fought in the courts. Who is to say if they overturn roe v. wade that in 10 yrs they (govt) wont mandate we all give up a kidney whether we like it or not - or force people to have children and give them away. God bless us all... and god help us if mccain/palin win the election. I will be one of the hundreds/thousands heading north toward canada.

To anyone who doubts the president will have any impact on abortion policy in the U.S., let me remind you that the next president will most likely appoint one or two new justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. This could most definitely affect the outcome of an abortion case, including the possible overturning of Roe v. Wade.

Government has no place in the issue of abortion- unless it is to regulate the sanitary conditions of the facilities or the necessary qualifications of the doctors. McCain is confused, dilusional, and frankly needs to bow down……Men have no concept of the emotional and physical trauma of abortion- the issue needs to be mute when it comes to presidentail debates and governmental discussions.

But what about small business owners? I think YOU might be considered a small business owner with your little online empire here...or the REAL small business owners with overhead and employees and the like. Abortion and war aside, we have all learned in recent weeks that it's the economy that makes the country run, so by voting for your liberal values alone will KILL this country when small businesses begin closing left and right due to their struggle with obama's tax increases.

it's easy to become utopian in an election year and forget the REALITY of how the world works...

Just a thought...

I am glad to have stumbled upon this post today. Somehow, I missed the AIR QUOTES when I watched the debate yesterday on my DVR while running around after my two kids.
What I'd heard was McCain throwing around the term "pro- abortion" which as I've felt for a long time is the ignorant umbrella that pro-lifers hold over pro-choicers. No one, let me reapeat, NO ONE is pro- abortion. Those of us who believe in Choice want women to have access to safe and legal procedures. Period.

Before this debate, I was